ALICE frame modular stuff sack pack system;

Decided to see what the MOLLE compression panels could take, and set up a backpack system in which the main bag is removable and contains all of my hammock camping gear cept tarp and suspension tree straps!

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Pack with everything loaded onto it

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Side view with hatchet mounted

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Other side view with knife and flashlight

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Bottom view, that is a vintage M1967 sleep system carrier being used as the bottom panel.

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Suspension view. Even though this frame is obsolete, and usually not comfortable with ALICE packs…it works pretty good for this load because of the packing system.

The pack contains the following items;

In the WW2 laundry bag stuff sack;

hammock

under pad

bug net

Kelty top quilt

In each of the 4x USMC Coyote brown pouches;

First aid kit (marked with red cross)

cook set and fire kit

food

back up hammock/gear hammock (Grand Trunk UltraLite)

In the MOLLE Water bottle carriers are the water bottles (self explanatory)

USGI M16 pouches carries my tarp in one, and hammock suspension in other

IDF revolver ammo/handcuff pouch houses my compass

Green Buttpack up top carries my clothes for up to 3 days

horizontal MOLLE pouch on very top carries my stakes, cordage, bandannas.

I do have room enough in the WW2 laundry bag to carry more insulation if I need to.

I notice that the MOLLE compression panels will likely need a 3rd buckle in the middle, and 2 more straps to attach to the frame, so that it compresses better around the main stuff sack.

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MYOG MOLLE Yucca Pack!

Made a MOLLE version of the Boy Scouts Yucca/ Green Bar Bill Pack; using 1000D DCU Cordura scraps….. Since I wanted a day pack that was in between the size of a Recon Buttpack and the size of a normal Schoolbag or the Medium Ruck sack…plus the ability to add or subtract pouches to it….I looked into my sewing fabrics drawer and out came the DCU Cordura material…I did not have enough width to make the pack the way  I make my pouches, but I had enough material to make a pack a little differently; with two side panels sewn to the main panel.

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Bare pack; with straps undone..yes the flap is ridiculously long, but its for a reason

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Flap opened up to show full height of the panel; 6 rows and 6 slots of MOLLE

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Side of pack; with 6 rows and 3 slots of MOLLE; for attachment of whatever you could want. Could thread cord through some slots and use that to compress the sides if needed?

DSCN2172Bottom of pack with 3 rows and 4 slots of MOLLE, for attachment of either MOLLE Waistpack or lashing straps for gear

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Back of pack without shoulder straps attached. The D-rings are for shoulder straps obviously, but they could also be used to strap to a frame or a larger ruck sack if one wanted to.

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Top of pack, showing the “ear flaps” to keep most weather out. I might add snaps to the edges to seal better…

DSCN2174Its like a cave of T-shirts! there’s enough space for up to 3 or 4 days of clothing in there….provided you put the rest of your camp gear outside it…as these next two pics will show!

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All packed up for a summertime/warm weather camp trip! Green sack has my modified Kelty topquilt, and then there’s the freebie Coleman inflatable pad on the bottom…the two squarish pouches holds food, first aid kit, and small batwing tarp. The long horizontal pouch holds tarp stakes, guylines, compass, misc gear.

I have two canteen pouches on this as well;

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The back showing the canteen pouches in use with canteens and cup and canteen stove; and their small pockets hold my Swiss Army Knife, and fire kit. You can see that I am using USGI LC-2 straps for backpacking duty, I could clip the pack to the black webbing harness I have which have two hooks for small packs such as this.

Hope you enjoyed this post!

 

UPDATE on this post! I have more pictures and detail shots of the pack!

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With pad and stuff sack removed, and black shotgun pouch added and small knife attached to MOLLE KA-BAR adapter. It is shown next to the small Recon Buttpack

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Better shot of the side and showing how much the three coyote pockets add to the depth of the pack

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detail shot of attachment of shotgun ammo belt pouch via ALICE to MOLLE adapter

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With green stuff sack up top

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Comparo shot of complete overnight-3 day pack next to large MYOG hiking backpack

Redone Whelen shelter set up!

I decided to try for an overnight trip out to Cascadia area in the Willamette National Forest….using my Modified Whelen setup using USGI Shelter Half parts….well. Weather took a turn for the cold and I was unable to maintain core temperatures so I had to give up the overnight part…Oh well! This set up uses 3 whole halves and two cut triangle ends from a fourth half..USGI poles and two steel poles, and 10 stakes. Took a long time to get the fire going…and I used two wool-blend blankets plus a 3/8 inch CCF foam pad underneath my modified USGI Intermediate Cold weather mummy bag….wearing wool socks, wool sweater, nylon pants and a cotton undershirt…as well as the USGI ECW parka inside the sleeping bag, I was still unable to stop the coldness from the ground.

The shelter has one half as a floor on top of an USGI poncho, while two halves are used on the top parts plus the triangle parts as panels in between the two halves.

Here are the photos of the camp set up!

DSCN2154Whelen style/Baker style set up. At first I thought I set it up way too close to the fire, but later in the evening it proved to not be the case.

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Another view of shelter set up

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Sleep area, showing the poles and the floor cloth used, along with the bags for storage of everything. I used my MYOG backpack to carry the complete shelter, and the black MSS bag to carry the wool blankets and the sleeping bag. The blue CCF pad went under the top flap.

DSCN2157Later, due to the smoke coming into the shelter, I took the awning off.

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Another view of the set up without awning

DSCN2159By this time, it was getting REAL cold, and I wasn’t sure if there was going to be some rain or snow, so I set up the awning again, but this time folded the ends over so that the wind will keep blowing the smoke out of the shelter, wind direction was mostly parallel to the shelter face.

For the next cold weather camp trip, I am going to attempt to make either an Ammo Can stove or a Popcorn Tin stove, and order polypropylene long johns for a base layer.

 

MYOG hiking backpack

Unable to afford or justify spending a lot of money on a backpack that has all the features I wanted; I decided to make my own pack bag to use with both my ALICE frame and Civilian Hiking frame; and  presumably is also compatible with MOLLE frames of both types; the MOLLE DEI 1603 (Standard MOLLE large frame) and MOLLE DEI 1609AC (MOLLE Medium frame now issued in USMC)… so I bought 2 yards of fabric, measured and cut patterns, and spent several hours sewing it all together… In hindsight, if I were to order a pack with these features, it would be over a 100 dollars… Oh well! the pack is a little over 55 Liters, and is pretty light…not as heavy as the ALICE pack, but not as light as the hiking backpack, mainly due to the webbing and plastic Fastex buckles..the Side Pouches are sewn like the ALICE pack pockets, basically tunneled so that I can slip long items in between the pouch and pack body. Features are;

Made of 430 Denier Nylon,

Overall size; 20″Wx22″Hx9″L

Main upper compartment 12″x9″x13″

Main lower compartment 12″x9″x9″

Upper side Pouch 9″x11″x4″

Lower side Pouch 5″x5″x3″

Attachment system; Ladder locks and 1″ webbing straps

Webbing for canteens (after finding out not enough room to sew water bottle pockets..whoops)

10 Fastex buckles, 8 frame attachment points

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Pack next to Coleman PEAK 1

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Quarter view of pack showing side pockets

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Webbing for LC canteen covers, can use for other LC pouches

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DSCN2136Drawstring panel on bottom of pack, I might make an U shaped panel with elastic on bottom to cover the drawstring panel and flap; not sure yet.

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Upper side pouch, it’s based on the MOLLE Sustainment pouch size, and uses two buckles instead of one for better securing; I do not use webbing keepers, since the straps can be used to compress pouches and hold things like folded up sweaters or tarps or poncho

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On the ALICE LC frame

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DSCN2140Lower corner attachment on LC frame; it uses the round hole to attach, just like the standard ALICE pack

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In theory it probably would be more comfortable using either a Canadian pattern 82 suspension or MOLLE Hellcat suspension system…

 

Customized shoulder straps for the Jasper external frame pack!

While out thrift shop hunting, I found a ratty old Camp Trails backpack; they wanted too much for it in my opinion…but I liked how they set up the suspension; it was a 6 point system in which there were load lifter straps connected to where the cheaper packs shoulder straps were, and the back of the shoulder padding had straps running down to the next lower bar on the frame; plus the two usual connection points near the bottom of the frame; so I was inspired by this system and decided to resurrect a pair of long cannibalized LC-3 shoulder pads (only the pads and two slots of webbing were left on this set)….. ripped some seams in order to attach new webbing straps with new hardware; and reattached the wide webbing to the foam bodies, and then cut the tan straps apart so that I can put the old short green webbing back onto it, for use as the back straps, and cut the 3/4″ wide sleeping bag straps that have grommets for the clevis pins, and sewed ladder-locs onto them for the load lifter portions…. the set up also made use of a random piece of webbing sewn together to make for a H harness connection system, so that the shoulder straps don’t twist around and wrap wrongly. Tested it with 12 pounds of items in the pack, it is SO much more comfortable….. this turns the Academy Broadway Jasper backpack into an useable pack….in fact, I think the only things not modified so far, are the frame and the pack bag itself.

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View of the strap system; showing the Fastex buckles and the load lifter; they are made of one piece each…

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Another view, you can see the green lower straps attached to the clevis pins on the bottom; also, the short 3/4″ webbing straps attached to the upper clevis pins for load lifters;

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view of the attaching middle piece, the grease pencil on it was the price for an Israeli Ephod vest to which this was added to…(unnecessary addition I think)

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showing the load lifters and the rest of the straps without a load holding them up. It looks weird, but it works! I may have to get longer lower straps; if these are too short after putting in 25 pounds of load including water and food……the tape on the top was from when I had a butt pack holding food up top….

More Hellcat pack set ups!

SO I decided to see just how much I could stuff into the MOLLE sustainment pouches and what the main compartment of the Recon Pack can carry;DSCN1957Front view;

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in the MOLLE sustainment Pouches; I have the following;

3 pairs of pants all packed into one pouch,

and in the other,

3 pairs of underwear,

4 pairs of socks

3 shirts,

and a Fleece pull over.

in the Compression sack, I have the hammock, underquilt, and a fleece blanket for summertime.

in the Recon pack, I have food, fire starting kit, canteen cups, esbit stove, stakes, hammock suspension, tarp, first aid kit, empty 1 qt canteens for cooking water.

and here is the ridiculously big set up, with an ALICE pack in place of the Recon pack;  I transferred the 3 pocket contents from the Recon pack to the 3 pockets on the ALICE, and filled the main compartment with an USGI mummy bag; I know, it is ridiculously large and bulky hahaha

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with the older ALICE pack up top, I notice that the coloring are quite different…

 

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And then here is the minimal set up that would make sense if I have clothes in one pouch, and food in the other pouch;

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Baby Hellcat pack!

After the Moose Mountain trip, I decided the pack I used could carry better by being attached to a frame; so I took off the old ALICE pack off my Coleman PEAK 1 frame and put the little Recon pack on the frame…it carries better, and whats nice, I have the ability to lash whatever I need onto the frame!

DSCN1943pack on frame without sleeping bag;lots lots of room on the lower half of frame!

DSCN1946detail of top mount, I used the same short straps that attached the ALICE pack to the frame, and mounted them to the D rings on the Recon pack

DSCN1944Detail of bottom mount, I used the upper LC pack connection straps, and slotted them into the slotted panel on the middle of the PEAK 1 frame, its almost as if the frame was made for this sizing!

DSCN1949with sleeping bag mounted vertically instead of horizontally, this gives the pack a slimmer profile, and makes it easier to put into cars, and there’s room on the sides for tools if I need to carry them

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DSCN1948detail shot of the slots the lashing straps goes into, there are many slots which can be used to lash tools or other items to the sides; this is actually a great frame to use for such things!

the frame is an old Coleman PEAK 1 frame, and I have USGI MOLLE pack straps and belt mounted to the frame, although the Recon pack is not an ALICE, it is shaped and built like one, just much much smaller and with two extra pouches on the top (large box pouch on top, zippered pocket on underside of flap), and has cinching cords on the 3 external pockets for keeping snow and water out.

DSCN1704the bare frame with the MOLLE equipment attached, and with two MEDIC pouches attached to belt.